v3.24 Herbtown bar

[Maniak2000]

Some NPCs in that bar mentions that the bar is actually 3 floors high, but 2 upper floors are closed for repair, so the door leading there is locked, but there is no door in the building (it was there in v3.13). So either DJC forgot to put a locked door there, or correct dialogue (I assume the second).


Side note (offtopic) 1
I was wondering is everlong was planned as anime - styled game by DJC or it was supposed to be real (west-style) looking rpg but RPG maker engines mostly limits to anime style graphics. I guess player can decide (imagine) it both ways depending on what they like better, I for one more comfortable with anime style.

Side note 2
About NPCs in towns. I know it was discussed before that there are too much NPCs in most locations, that it was supposed to be like real towns with many people etc. I would like to mention also placement of those NPCs, I mean look at Herbtown for example, I can uderstand tons of people in the square, I can understand many people in the bar and library and even in big houses (mansions) like maids, buttlers, other staff.... What I can't understand for example is, why are there people (as in more then 3) in the item shop, sitting at the tables chatting and (maybe) drinking.... I mean you have half-empty bar downthe street. It's not like they buying or browsing. Same with armor shops and weapon shops. Also too many people in ordinary house is also......weird, I mean it doesn't happen often but unless they're throwing a party in there (witch isn't the case).....how big can a family living in 1 house be? I know that in some cases there are refugees and stuff, but still.........

[DJC]

Dec 20, 2010 4:28:51 GMT -5 @Maniak2000 said:

Some NPCs in that bar mentions that the bar is actually 3 floors high, but 2 upper floors are closed for repair, so the door leading there is locked, but there is no door in the building (it was there in v3.13). So either DJC forgot to put a locked door there, or correct dialogue (I assume the second).

I sealed off the upper floors and forgot to delete that dialog.

Side note (offtopic) 1
I was wondering is everlong was planned as anime - styled game by DJC or it was supposed to be real (west-style) looking rpg but RPG maker engines mostly limits to anime style graphics. I guess player can decide (imagine) it both ways depending on what they like better, I for one more comfortable with anime style.

Since it's not original art, it's difficult to keep a consistent artistic style. If I was going to pay artists, I'd aim for realistic graphics rather than anime or "cute" character representations.

Side note 2
About NPCs in towns. I know it was discussed before that there are too much NPCs in most locations, that it was supposed to be like real towns with many people etc. I would like to mention also placement of those NPCs, I mean look at Herbtown for example, I can uderstand tons of people in the square, I can understand many people in the bar and library and even in big houses (mansions) like maids, buttlers, other staff.... What I can't understand for example is, why are there people (as in more then 3) in the item shop, sitting at the tables chatting and (maybe) drinking.... I mean you have half-empty bar downthe street. It's not like they buying or browsing. Same with armor shops and weapon shops. Also too many people in ordinary house is also......weird, I mean it doesn't happen often but unless they're throwing a party in there (witch isn't the case).....how big can a family living in 1 house be? I know that in some cases there are refugees and stuff, but still.........

Every town and castle in the game needs a redesign. Herbtown doesn't make any sense as a small farming village out on the plains yet it has huge buildings, including a three story pub and mansions. Really it ought to be small peasant huts grouped around a lord's estate, or a small farmer community with their fields just outside the walls.

What I'd like to do is make each town unique, both in layout and its inhabitants, with mini-quests to introduce the area and involve the player. But this would take a tremendous amount of time and new resources.

[Maniak2000]

Dec 20, 2010 13:41:33 GMT -5 DJC said:

But this would take a tremendous amount of time and new resources.

In other words, don't count on it in the next 3 or so years?

[DJC]

Dec 20, 2010 14:08:29 GMT -5 @Maniak2000 said:

Dec 20, 2010 13:41:33 GMT -5 DJC said:

But this would take a tremendous amount of time and new resources.

In other words, don't count on it in the next 3 or so years?

Probably more like never. There's a long list of other stuff I'd rather do and that would probably go much further in improving the game. Among these are the switch to a new engine, implementation of planned but cut game systems, and additional character development that was also cut. Only if I decided to sell the game and spend a large sum of money paying artists for original graphics and music would I bother to redesign the towns at this point.